Fallingbrook Community Association

Minutes of the Executive Meeting

24 April 2006

Ray Friel Centre

Those Present:

Zybina Richards, David Villeneuve, Marc Cappelli, Don Pottier, Brenda Spearman, Phil McNeely MPP, Catherine Greenidge (representing Bob Monette), Philippe Berthiaume (representing Royal Galipeau), Louise Lapensee (representing Rob Jellett)


Minutes from March Meeting

Matters Arising from previous meeting

Treasurer's Report (Don Pottier)

Philippe Berthiaume on behalf of Royal Galipeau MP

Phil McNeely MPP

Louise Lapensee on Behalf of Councillor Rob Jellett

Catherine Greenidge on behalf of Councillor Bob Monette

Charlemagne and Princess Louise (west) Intersection (David)

Since the traffic signal was installed there, the lane markings on Charlemagne were modified. There is now a dedicated left turn lane on the inside eastbound lane for east-to-north movements, plus an additional left turn lane for west-to-south movements. This leaves only a single straight-through eastbound lane on Charlemagne. At first I thought this was an improvement, but now I think it has had negative unintended consequences.

- The center eastbound lane ends at Princess Louise, and vehicles that miss this point are then in the westbound left turn lane, going the wrong way.

- There is no overhead sign or warning about the end of the lane. Only the left arrows on the pavement mark it.

- The lane markings can be difficult to see at night, in the rain, or in the snow.

- I have seen some vehicles mistakenly go straight through in the left turn lane. Everyone who uses this intersection regularly knows about it, but someone who is new to the area will be surprised by the unconventional design.

- Nowhere else is Charlemagne Blvd restricted to one lane.

- The dedicated left turn lane in the westbound direction is rarely used compared with other movements at the intersection.

- The end of the inside lane impacts traffic on Tenth Line Road, since you now have to choose your lane in the double left hand turn lanes on Tenth Line before turning onto Charlemagne. The right hand of these two lanes typically backs up during the PM peak hours and can take several cycles to get through.

- To avoid this backup on Tenth Line, particularly if there is a bus in the right lane that will stop on Charlemagne, one is tempted to use the left lane and then squeeze into the right lane before the signal at Princess Louise. Combined with two right hand intersections on this stretch of Charlemagne, these lane changes can be risky.

- There is a bus stop in the eastbound lane just past Princess Louise, where there is only a single eastbound lane. Vehicles commonly pass the bus by using the oncoming left turn lane.

Unless I am missing an important design component, it seems that the intersection is more dangerous than it was before the lane markings were changed. The addition of the traffic signal itself has much improved the intersection for pedestrians and vehicles on Princess Louise.

I would propose that the left turn only inside eastbound become a combined left turn and straight through lane, and that the westbound left turn only lane be removed. This is how the lanes were marked when the traffic signal was first installed.

Please note that we are NOT asking that overhead lane markings be installed. This is an expensive solution and does not address our other concerns.

Sewer grates for bicycles (Marc)

Garage Sale (David)

Outdoor Rinks (Paul Pelletier)

Petrie Island Report (Zybina)

Volunteer Awards Evening (Zybina)

Annual General Meeting (Zybina)

Homeniuk Amusement Rides



Minutes recorded by David Villeneuve